What happens if you leave zion




















I am a cat, who thinks he's a dog, and is trapped within a mans body. User Info: DrunkenPeasant. I drive them out, you don't run away from your problems if you want to get anywhere in life, this would be doubley true in a post- apocalyptic environment where havens like Zion are precious.

I prefer to let Joshua Graham execute Salt upon Wounds, he lived like a dog, he can die like one. User Info: WillSimplyBe. Actually, it's what i've always really liked about Honest Hearts. It's about strength of conviction. Daniel is a pacifist, he believes that there is always a place for mercy, standing opposite of Joshua, who believes there is no room for it, and that their enemies deserve to be crushed to dust.

Daniel has many mixed feelings throughout the whole ordeal because he wonders whether the missionaries should have ever found the tribals to begin with, and if, despite their best efforts to help and improve their lives, they've only complicated and endangered them. Daniel's upset with any ending because no matter what, they've changed the lives of the tribals forever, as a result of them being found by the missionaries.

There are endings you could view as a decent ending by opinion, but no "Golden Ending", where the daniel and the still waters have their cake and eat it too. That's why Daniel loses sleep at night. Really, it's a wonderfully gray story. Credit where Credit is due for the great writing in New Vegas. User Info: lorddrago The tribes get to keep Zion rather than just running away and living in some craggy hole, yet they don't become warlike and go looking for fights, FC survives, WK doesn't become a murderous psycho, and Graham finds peace.

Daniel's an idiot that complains about everything, so screw him. Joshua's happy, Daniel's about as happy as he can be given the other endings, Zion doesn't get defiled with the White Legs' filth, and old Salty and the surviving White Legs still get what's coming to them. The Sorrows have to learn to stand their own ground without becoming monsters, and this outcome provides the best future for everyone. If Follows-Chalk is advised to explore civilization, his ending involves returning to Dead Horse Point, then quarreling with his family and other tribe members about his ambitions.

If Follows-Chalk stays with his tribe, his ending involves his life after remaining in Zion. For the time being, just follow Jed until the ambush, and then take cover by a rock. This is because it can be difficult to kill stuff; of course, if you consider yourself a pro at Fallout, go in whenever you like.

The walkthrough is separated by quest for easy navigation. Completing either of these is not required, but it will help level you up. Instead of staying to fight for their home, the Courier chooses to help the Sorrows flee Zion. Mining detonator , ready for use. Honest Hearts.

Quests in Fallout: New Vegas. Categories Honest Hearts quests. RDF feed. Has platform. Universal Conquest Wiki. Honest Hearts main quest: Flight from Zion. Fight your way to the Pine Creek Tunnel. Kill Salt-Upon-Wound. Convince Salt-Upon-Wound to leave peaceful Speech Speak to Daniel. Use the detonator to collapse the Pine Creek Tunnel. Leads to: Departing Paradise. Daniel evacuated the Sorrows from Zion, but due to the Courier's neglect, the White Legs butchered many along the way.

Those who survived barely reached Grand Staircase, but once there, the Dead Horses and New Canaanites helped them settle. The unfamiliarity of their new surroundings, and the loss of loved ones, evoked a terrible and lasting grief among the Sorrows. For two generations, many would die still lamenting the loss of Zion.

Though he despaired at the Sorrows' loss of innocence, Daniel took some small consolation in the Courier's lesson, and prayed it would take root. The Sorrows' transformation from a peaceful, timid tribe into a merciless, warlike people broke Daniel's heart. Over time, the Sorrows became ever more ruthless in their dealings - even with each other. Daniel traveled to and from between the New Canaanites and Zion, continuing to plead for a return to the old ways whenever he visited.

Eventually, the Sorrows grew tired of his blather, and turned their backs on him. The Sorrows' transformation from a peaceful, timid tribe into a proud and warlike people broke Daniel's heart.

He tried to take solace in the knowledge that they would remain in Zion, but it was a small comfort. The Sorrows' innocence was lost. Having revered Joshua Graham as a living legend for so many years, the Dead Horses found it difficult to accept his death. New Canaanite missionaries sought to remain in contact with the tribe, but lacking Joshua's authority, their influence dwindled. Still, as an expression of enduring respect for their lost spiritual leader, the Dead Horses helped protect the lands where New Canaanites settled.

As generations passed, the Dead Horses came to worship a spirit of the land, a harsh spirit of divine justice. They called it Joshua.

The tribe continued to learn from the New Canaanites, and over many years built a flourishing community along the banks of the Colorado. Though the tribes' bond would endure, it was Joshua Graham's legend the Dead Horses would revere, not the tenets of New Canaan's faith. They remained neutral toward the Sorrows, but as years went on, there were periods of competitive friction, even violence, between the tribes.

The New Canaanites - Daniel especially - intervened regularly as mediators, but found it difficult to reconcile the tribes' conflicts. Already weakened by several seasons of bad trading, the Happy Trails Caravan Company was devastated by the failure of its expedition. The New Canaanites never reestablished ties with the caravan. Their experiences with outsiders near the Great Salt Lake and in Zion had been far too negative.

Within six months, the Happy Trails Caravan Company was bankrupted and dissolved. Already weakened by several seasons of bad trading, the Happy Trails Caravan Company was initially discouraged by the results of its expedition.

The fate of New Canaan , and the evacuation of the Sorrows from Zion, made the prospect of trading seem fruitless. When Daniel told his family about the exploits of Happy Trails' employee, the Courier, however, New Canaan decided to repay the company's kindness.

Twice per year, New Canaanites made the dangerous journey west to trade with the company in the city of New Reno. The Happy Trails Caravan Company could not survive on such trading alone, but the New Canaanite's generosity made tough times go easier. Every two months, the caravan met with the New Canaanites in Zion Valley to trade. Happy Trails soon returned to prosperity. The vigilance of the Sorrows and Dead Horses in defending southwestern Utah, initially startling to Happy Trails caravans, soon proved a blessing.

The tribes united against the 80s, driving them back from Highway 50, and thus opening yet another trading route for Happy Trails caravans. Follows-Chalk took the Courier's words to heart and decided that the big cities of the Mojave Wasteland and NCR were best left unexplored.



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